Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. Let's all throttle back a bit. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. I didn't want to throw anybody the bus just want the correct paperwork to be done because it would take a google search to find all that medical stuff on me and I would like to work in government, What do I do? It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. Option 2: Lie. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. Yes. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. Did I Lie at MEPS??! Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). What should I do. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. I was in the same spot. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . Press J to jump to the feed. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. Just something to think of. Nice guy and not pushy. PERIOD. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. LASIK Surgery Checklist. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? : r/USMCboot. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. Should I start applying scar reducing cream to make it less noticeable? uuugh, it was hot. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. Option 2: Lie. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. Dont lie. Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? When did the AF start allowing pilots that have had LASIK? He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. The largest military subreddit on reddit. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! Here is the Press Release. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I was at SOI-West last summer. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It happened to be depression and medication for it. Lying will. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. Thanks for the details. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. That's just the way it happens. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? I'm guessing you're done. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. Know what makes you a poor candidate. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. Fraudulent Enlistment. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. Because the military does not. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I had no issues. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. KUDOS! a) Check our wiki b) Run a search c) Post your question with a *clear and specific title*, Press J to jump to the feed. Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. Privacy Policy. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. And you'll be sidelined forever. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. 1. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Alright, you've got me interested. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . The most popular bodybuilding message boards! Is there a glaucoma suspect trait i should be wary of, are there any other eye traits that would require further testing. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Make it impossible to lie? Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. HELP!!!! This is for prior service and new applicants. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. Take the advice and think on it. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. You are using an out of date browser. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. Always good advice. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. Good luck to you. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. He told them. Shoulda been a dishonorable. Below are abstractions of a true stories. All Rights Reserved. Thank you for the quick replies. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 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